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and emil bove try to put distance between michael cohen and the trump campaign. whether or not this was done to benefit the campaign is at least one of the crux of the matter here . again, this is from nbc reporters courtroom notes today. emil bove, "michael cohen was mr. trump's personal lawyer and that was his only job?" "correct." "between 2015 and 2016 michael cohen was clear he was the personal attorney." "tran33, yes." that is in addition to making it seem david pecker had his facts spoonfed to them by prosecutors, suggesting he might have lied under oath at one point to have behind prosecutors when he didn't mention multiple times that hope hicks, trumps staff hope hicks was present at at least one key meeting. this again is the defense on cross examination. the defense will get to resume the cross-examination of david pecker tomorrow morning when court reconvenes at 9:30 a.m. . the revelations from david pecker on direct examination feel so understandable and straightforward and sort of right to the point in terms of what that case is. i understand the de
and emil bove try to put distance between michael cohen and the trump campaign. whether or not this was done to benefit the campaign is at least one of the crux of the matter here . again, this is from nbc reporters courtroom notes today. emil bove, "michael cohen was mr. trump's personal lawyer and that was his only job?" "correct." "between 2015 and 2016 michael cohen was clear he was the personal attorney." "tran33, yes." that is in addition to making...
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bove continues of david pecker. the focus so far this morning has been on two specific parts, number one, the extent to which hope hicks was involved in that august of 2015 meeting, asked about whether hope hicks was an active participant or spoke during that meeting, david pecker conceded that, no, she did not actively participate or speak during that trump tower meeting that was engaged between michael cohen, donald trump, and david pecker, only going so far as to say that she was in and out of the room. the second part of donald trump's defense inquiry of david pecker was over the arrangement that they had with him coming out of that august 2015 meeting, specifically as it pertained to stories about the clintons, but also the likes of ben carson, marco rubio and ted cruz, those negative stories that were intended to hurt their campaigns, and the defense team asked david pecker whether they would have run those stories regardless of the relationship that they had struck with donald trump, and pecker, according to
bove continues of david pecker. the focus so far this morning has been on two specific parts, number one, the extent to which hope hicks was involved in that august of 2015 meeting, asked about whether hope hicks was an active participant or spoke during that meeting, david pecker conceded that, no, she did not actively participate or speak during that trump tower meeting that was engaged between michael cohen, donald trump, and david pecker, only going so far as to say that she was in and out...
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so trump's attorney or the defense attorney, emile bove, is asking you a series of questions since right now, if david pecker, the witness, about how prosecutors in fact prepared pecker to give, quote, consistent testimony. >> every time he's testified, david chatterley and some very interesting testimony not long ago this afternoon, we're david pecker recalled a phone conversation. he had with trump's white house team at the time according to mr. packer, hope hicks, and sarah huckabee sanders sara was the communications director or the press secretary, and hope x was a special assistant to the president. >> he talked pecker says with hicks and sanders about whether karen mcdougal's contract it should be extended. >> so just to remind people, karen mcdougal is 1998 playmate of the year, who alleged she had a long term affair and part of the catch and kill was to give her $150,000, david pecker did to have her not tell her story publicly it was not a script pecker said going on to confirm he wasn't surprised by any questions from the prosecutor. that's about the separate issue about wheth
so trump's attorney or the defense attorney, emile bove, is asking you a series of questions since right now, if david pecker, the witness, about how prosecutors in fact prepared pecker to give, quote, consistent testimony. >> every time he's testified, david chatterley and some very interesting testimony not long ago this afternoon, we're david pecker recalled a phone conversation. he had with trump's white house team at the time according to mr. packer, hope hicks, and sarah huckabee...
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surprising to see emil bove get up and do some of the cross examination. i don't think it was surprising to see susan necheles get up either. the one thing i did take away from this week was how todd's presence and the mud that todd went before the judge and at the lectern was reduced as the week went on. i wonder if that is, well, so, if you think about the timing, it was after heated opening statements. there were objections sustained during his opening statement, that wasn't a great look in front of trump. when he was trying to defend the indefensible because trump quite clearly appears to have violated the gag order, when he got bench slapped by judge juan merchan in the contempt hearing. since then, todd blanche has taken a backseat. i wonder if part of that is because he wants to reduce the visibility that he has in front of the judge and continually losing things in front of the judge in front of trump because trump and todd have this close relationship. if you see them in the southern district of florida, in the documents case, they are always laug
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i would have to reread the stories to answer that question. >> emil bove then continues down this line of questioning, asking david pecker, the witness. it was standard operating procedure for the national enquirer or two sort of recycled content from other publications and frame it's slightly differently correct? correct. that's cost-effective. correct. >> information from the public domain goes into the national enquirer. it's quick and easy, correct? yes. good for business? yes. >> beauvais then asks, there was already negative information in the public domain about ben carson. and so you ran it in the national enquirer, right? yes. and because that was quick and efficient and cost-effective, you would have done that whether or not you had discussed it with president trump, correct? >> yes. >> wolf very interesting testimony, indeed. thanks for bringing that to our attention. i'm glad you're going through that whole transcript now. very important indeed, let's get to him, alice this and what's going on? i'm lead counsel for special counsel, robert mueller's investigation of donald t
i would have to reread the stories to answer that question. >> emil bove then continues down this line of questioning, asking david pecker, the witness. it was standard operating procedure for the national enquirer or two sort of recycled content from other publications and frame it's slightly differently correct? correct. that's cost-effective. correct. >> information from the public domain goes into the national enquirer. it's quick and easy, correct? yes. good for business? yes....
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i would say today was less successful for emil bove who is the lawyer who is questioning david pecker from trump's side, and in particular, he was trying to exploit perceived inconsistencies in pecker's testimony. not only his testimony here but contrasting it with things that he has said over the years to state and federal prosecutors. chris, you might be asking yourself, how does trump's team know what david pecker said to state and federal prosecutors, and that's because it's discoverable. and in particular, the notes that the fbi took during david pecker's meeting with federal prosecutors were discoverable in this court, and usable for impeachment purposes. that doesn't always happen in federal court. i thought that was not as successful as bove wanted it to be because he was sort of fixated on small details. he was also trying to elicit from pecker inconsistencies between what pecker himself had said and things that his lawyers had represented to state and federal prosecutors. largely that was shut down. the one thing that i thought bove had some success at was planting in the ju
i would say today was less successful for emil bove who is the lawyer who is questioning david pecker from trump's side, and in particular, he was trying to exploit perceived inconsistencies in pecker's testimony. not only his testimony here but contrasting it with things that he has said over the years to state and federal prosecutors. chris, you might be asking yourself, how does trump's team know what david pecker said to state and federal prosecutors, and that's because it's discoverable....
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here's the exchange between pecker and trump's attorney emil bove vey beauvais said, so if this story was true, the doorman's story, you were going to run it, correct? pecker says yes because you had a fiduciary obligation patient to do that, right. says beauvais pecker says that is correct, but they said it would have made business sense to put it mildly to run such an article if it was true, correct. twitch, pecker replied, yes. now, we should point out in testimony earlier this week, pecker did testify under oath that if he ran the story, it would have been after the election which makes the argument that this was to protect trump going into the election. but as soon as the election was over, pecker would have run that doorman's story because it would have been in his words, extremely popular or not his exact words. but he said it would've been extremely popular among the national enquirer for audience back with the panel joining us as well as barry levine, former executive editor of the national enquirer. barry, i'm wondering, you know, david pecker, obviously. well, you worked wi
here's the exchange between pecker and trump's attorney emil bove vey beauvais said, so if this story was true, the doorman's story, you were going to run it, correct? pecker says yes because you had a fiduciary obligation patient to do that, right. says beauvais pecker says that is correct, but they said it would have made business sense to put it mildly to run such an article if it was true, correct. twitch, pecker replied, yes. now, we should point out in testimony earlier this week, pecker...
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emile bovee questioned the testimony from yesterday where packer testified trump thanked him for suppressing a false story from a trump tower doorman. be reminded that he told the fbi in 2018 that trump never expressed any attitude to american media. pecker said today he does not recall that fbi testimony. trump's lawyers also exposed that business deals may have served as a motivation for pecker to enter a nonprosecution agreement with the southern district of new york for campaign finance violations. pecker testified many of the negative stories he published about trump's opponents already existed in the public domain. he said running negative stories particularly about former president bill clinton and former secretary of state lloyd clinton was good for his business. court started this morning with trump's attorneys clarifying that questions about hick's presence at a trump tower meeting in 2015, pecker said she was in and out of that meeting and her presence is important because it would show a level of campaign involvement in those talks. now just before lunch pecker also spoke about h
emile bovee questioned the testimony from yesterday where packer testified trump thanked him for suppressing a false story from a trump tower doorman. be reminded that he told the fbi in 2018 that trump never expressed any attitude to american media. pecker said today he does not recall that fbi testimony. trump's lawyers also exposed that business deals may have served as a motivation for pecker to enter a nonprosecution agreement with the southern district of new york for campaign finance...
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on cross-examination, trump's attorney emil bove had. pecker admits that tabloids would do this every once in a while with celebrity stories, a tactic known as catch and kill. but on redirect, pecker later clarified that this was the first time he had done so on behalf of a presidential candidate. quote. it's the only one pecker said bove did have. pecker admit, though, that trump never brought up buying any of these stories in their meeting together. but pecker responded, saying that he did agree to serve as the eyes and ears of the trump campaign. bove also sought to poke holes in pecker's credibility by getting him to acknowledge that the 72 year old had mixed up some dates, and some of his statements to federal prosecutors in 2018 were inconsistent with his testimony. this week, pecker said, quote, i've been truthful to the best of my recollection. also on the stand today was rhona graff, trump's longtime executive assistant. graff testified that the trump organization had stormy daniels and karen mcdougal's phone numbers in a databa
on cross-examination, trump's attorney emil bove had. pecker admits that tabloids would do this every once in a while with celebrity stories, a tactic known as catch and kill. but on redirect, pecker later clarified that this was the first time he had done so on behalf of a presidential candidate. quote. it's the only one pecker said bove did have. pecker admit, though, that trump never brought up buying any of these stories in their meeting together. but pecker responded, saying that he did...
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you will see him nodding after todd blanche or emile bovee whispered something to him and he would ask them a question. you can see that once in a while. the interesting thing with his interaction with the jury, which is a little bit different from when he was rebuked by the judge during jury selection for making a comment about a juror and the judge got really irritated with him the first week of the trial and basically told his lawyer, tell your client he cannot do that anymore. now, he does not have that kind of interaction with the jury and does not say anything to them. when they come in and out in the morning and after lunch and sometimes the third or fourth time, they pass within three feet of him as they exit the courtroom and he has -- he is required to stand when the jury comes in and leaves. now, this is a very interesting small democratic moment, where a former president of the united states, who says he wants to be a dictator for a day, he has to stand in honor of 18 jurors, 18 citizens. and they file past him as if they are soldiers, silent soldiers on their way to do the
you will see him nodding after todd blanche or emile bovee whispered something to him and he would ask them a question. you can see that once in a while. the interesting thing with his interaction with the jury, which is a little bit different from when he was rebuked by the judge during jury selection for making a comment about a juror and the judge got really irritated with him the first week of the trial and basically told his lawyer, tell your client he cannot do that anymore. now, he does...
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bove as questioning of the former national enquirer publisher. he attempted to discredit one of the prosecution's key witnesses, trump's x person it's an old attorney, michael cohen. he asked pecker if you felt cohen was prone to exaggeration? pecker agreed he was after court, trump weighed in on the trial eight days that we all sitting in courthouse. i just want to thank everybody. i'm michele for through this, like everybody else michael cohen's banker took the stand on friday afternoon, explaining to the dreo he helped set up a bank account for the shell company that cohen ultimately used to transfer the $130,000 payment stormy daniels, there's no court on monday, but the banker will be back on the stand tuesday, answering question from prosecutors before trump's lawyers get a turn at him. >> kara scannell, cnn, new york former president donald trump will also have a key hearing next week on the gag order against him. thursday morning. judge, merchan will weigh prosecutors arguments that trump violated the order four more times this week when
bove as questioning of the former national enquirer publisher. he attempted to discredit one of the prosecution's key witnesses, trump's x person it's an old attorney, michael cohen. he asked pecker if you felt cohen was prone to exaggeration? pecker agreed he was after court, trump weighed in on the trial eight days that we all sitting in courthouse. i just want to thank everybody. i'm michele for through this, like everybody else michael cohen's banker took the stand on friday afternoon,...
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. >> i should note one of the things that emil bove, one of trumps lawyers, try to do with david pecker was pushing on his memory, which is a standard form of cross. i have to say, i remember having this thought when i was watching the gwyneth paltrow civil case about the ski incident like does anyone really remember at this point who knocked and who? the memory thing seems fine and at some point etc. you are really good about conversations you had, it's hard to remember what that almost 10 years ago. david pecker, "yes." there are some instances where your and fills in gaps, right? "to the best of my knowledge." in this case you have notes because he did fbi intake and there's corroborating documents, which seems to have the prosecution. >> i think you still, nevertheless, as the defense, if that is what we are talking about, them operating this week, you have to attack all angles. if there are any areas with which you can attack his credibility, his opportunity to observe or remember, you have to take those angles. >> let me ask you this judge. we have the motion to show cause on the
. >> i should note one of the things that emil bove, one of trumps lawyers, try to do with david pecker was pushing on his memory, which is a standard form of cross. i have to say, i remember having this thought when i was watching the gwyneth paltrow civil case about the ski incident like does anyone really remember at this point who knocked and who? the memory thing seems fine and at some point etc. you are really good about conversations you had, it's hard to remember what that almost...
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defense attorney emil bove. and you were very clear on cross-examination that ms. mcdougal did not want to publish that story, right? that is correct. bove, she wanted to promote her name and brand, correct? yes. she, karen mcdougal was illegitimate celebrity at that time, right? pecker, let me say this. did she meet the celebrity category at that time? no. there were reportedly audible chuckles in the courtroom after that happened. it was not what you would call a highlight moment for the defense. in fact, to be honest from my perspective almost none of it so far has seen all that great for donald trump. maybe you don't need a compelling narrative when the job is to get jurors to believe in reasonable doubt or maybe this is what is happening when you work with an impossible client and do a better job. what does a competent defense strategy look like in this trial? is it turns out, joining me now is andrew wiseman, and anna bello, a pleasure to have you both onset. first of all, i am totally honest about all of this. i will just say, andrew, from what i have seen,
defense attorney emil bove. and you were very clear on cross-examination that ms. mcdougal did not want to publish that story, right? that is correct. bove, she wanted to promote her name and brand, correct? yes. she, karen mcdougal was illegitimate celebrity at that time, right? pecker, let me say this. did she meet the celebrity category at that time? no. there were reportedly audible chuckles in the courtroom after that happened. it was not what you would call a highlight moment for the...
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bove as questioning of the former national enquirer publisher. he attempted to discredit one of the prosecution's key witnesses, trump's x personal lazzarini, michael cohen. he asked pecker if you felt cohen was prone to exaggeration. pecker agreed he was after court. trump weighed in on the trial, eight days that we sitting in this courthouse i just want to thank everybody for being here. >> this, is like. everybody else michael cohen's bank or took the stand friday afternoon, he described to the jury how he helped cohen set up the shell company that was ultimately used to transfer the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels. >> there's no court on monday, so the banker will be back on the stand tuesday. we're prosecutors will continue to question him then, donald trump's attorneys will get a chance to cross-examine him as his trial continues into next week, amara victor, kara scannell. thanks so much and doing now by former federal prosecutor, at least we'll good morning to you. let me start here with david pecker and then kind of go through some of
bove as questioning of the former national enquirer publisher. he attempted to discredit one of the prosecution's key witnesses, trump's x personal lazzarini, michael cohen. he asked pecker if you felt cohen was prone to exaggeration. pecker agreed he was after court. trump weighed in on the trial, eight days that we sitting in this courthouse i just want to thank everybody for being here. >> this, is like. everybody else michael cohen's bank or took the stand friday afternoon, he...
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. >> trump's attorney, emil bove, a asking if he believed cohen was prone to exaggeration, pecker agreeing that he was the end of it all, the former president had this to say about the trials so far this is eight days that we all sitting in this courthouse. this is all biden-run indictment it's an order to try and win election political opponent nothing like this has ever happened eight days country is going to hell and we sit here day after, day after day, which is their plan well, the foreign president offer no evidence. of course, who any of those claims. there's no evidence that any of what he said is true. and i'm joining us tonight, new york criminal defense attorney arthur aidala, also attorney and former apprentice contestant stacey schneider, cnn political commentator earl lewis cnn legal analyst let's karen friedman, agnifilo and elie honig and cnn's kara scannell, who was in the courtroom today. and we'll be going through the transcript for us throughout the night i want to ask this everybody for care of for you. what stood out today well, i had an actual front row seat today, s
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bove vase said, this can only be done once and it must be done right, because the impact it will have on this election now the lawyer for the district attorney's office, steven wu, is their chief appellate attorney. he had pushed back on this saying that this was entirely the wrong way to challenge any of these rulings. so that can only he'd be done procedurally after there is a conclusion to this case, a verdict in this trial he urged the judge saying there is a powerful public interests to ensure this trial moves forward on the scheduled date and just a short time after that, the judge issued this ruling denying the stay, denying trump's effort to stop the trial. what was extraordinary too daybell with is that this court had a full calendar of appeal arguments, that it was hearing what they had to do was move this down to the basement to rearrange the tables to create it makes shift courtroom so they could accommodate this hearing today, so they created a table for the judge, a table for the attorneys to argue, and then a table and chairs in the back for us in the media to be able t
bove vase said, this can only be done once and it must be done right, because the impact it will have on this election now the lawyer for the district attorney's office, steven wu, is their chief appellate attorney. he had pushed back on this saying that this was entirely the wrong way to challenge any of these rulings. so that can only he'd be done procedurally after there is a conclusion to this case, a verdict in this trial he urged the judge saying there is a powerful public interests to...
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trump's defense attorney, emil bovee ha, had been repeatedlypei referring to trump as president trump when referencing periodso of time when trump was not in office. the d.a.'s office keeps objectinctine mercg and judge mn keeps sustaining those t objections. so okay, convict him of usinheg the wrong title for trump at that timthe. . >> this is this is where we are like mean. >>, en pretty powerful that one. that's pretty crummy. we call president obamt obthat't president. that's crazy that you wouldn't call a former president th's the president. that's that's their title for the rest of their lives. and it just shows you hos.and es process is. and even though the evidence is completele legay the legal allegations are completely bogus, you still have a clearlyo biased judge this juan merchan who donated biden donated to another anti-trump cause. his adult daughter has raised $100 million on this case. he shoul.d recused. >> he didn't recuse. you have this soros partttan, manhattan d.a. alvin bragg, and you have matthewthew collatl deployed from the biden justice department, a senior p
trump's defense attorney, emil bovee ha, had been repeatedlypei referring to trump as president trump when referencing periodso of time when trump was not in office. the d.a.'s office keeps objectinctine mercg and judge mn keeps sustaining those t objections. so okay, convict him of usinheg the wrong title for trump at that timthe. . >> this is this is where we are like mean. >>, en pretty powerful that one. that's pretty crummy. we call president obamt obthat't president. that's...
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pecker says, yes, later emil bove, the defense attorney, says standard operating procedure, as you understand it, correct? pecker says yes. bradley moss. how much does that stick? do you think the jury will be convinced this is just standard operating procedure or after three days of david pecker do you think they're left with a feeling that something unusual was going on here. >> yeah. >> as much as they're going to try to hit this standard operating procedure line. >> this was a rather unique set of circumstances in the way they frame this agreement. i don't think anything we were heard so far on cross-examinati on and want to certainly see what comes out today as outlined. a similar set of facts comparable to what michael cohen when donald trump is set up. so as this goes through, there, obviously they're gonna try to dirty up the national enquirer grade. it's not like they had a pristine reputation in the first place, becomes a question for the jury of do we view this as unique? was this something distinguishable from the normal standard operating procedures, the normal way the national e
pecker says, yes, later emil bove, the defense attorney, says standard operating procedure, as you understand it, correct? pecker says yes. bradley moss. how much does that stick? do you think the jury will be convinced this is just standard operating procedure or after three days of david pecker do you think they're left with a feeling that something unusual was going on here. >> yeah. >> as much as they're going to try to hit this standard operating procedure line. >> this...
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bove as questioning of the former national enquirer publisher. he attempted to discredit one of the prosecution's key witnesses, trump's x personally the attorney michael cohen. he asked pecker if you felt cohen was prone to exaggeration. pecker agreed he was after court. trump weighed in on the trial, eight days that we sitting in courthouse. i just want to thank hey, everybody for being here michelle for through this, like everybody else. >> michael cohen's banker took the stand on friday afternoon, explaining to the dreo he helped set up a bank account for the shell company that cohen ultimately used to transfer the $130,000 payment stormy daniels, there's no court on monday, but the banker will be back on the stand tuesday, answering question from prosecutors before trump's lawyers get a turn at him. kara scannell, cnn, new york and coming up former us attorney general, bill barr says donald trump should not be anywhere near the oval office, yet he still plans to vote for him assignment with hottie cornish. >> listen wherever you get your pod
bove as questioning of the former national enquirer publisher. he attempted to discredit one of the prosecution's key witnesses, trump's x personally the attorney michael cohen. he asked pecker if you felt cohen was prone to exaggeration. pecker agreed he was after court. trump weighed in on the trial, eight days that we sitting in courthouse. i just want to thank hey, everybody for being here michelle for through this, like everybody else. >> michael cohen's banker took the stand on...
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beauvais, who is it was an interesting, interesting q&a in this back-and-forth with emil bove vein who is a defense attorney for mr. trump pecker acknowledged that negative press for trump's foes was generally good for business pecker said that if the false door man allegations had been true, he would have run the story after the election beauvais elicited from pecker that catch and kill. the term catch and kill buying a story in order to not run it so that it doesn't run anywhere else to protect mr. trump in this case, allegedly, tkatchenko was not discussed at the august 2015 meeting? the defense elicited from packer that he wanted nothing to do with the stormy daniels allegations and the defense made sure to spell out for the jurors that the karen mcdougal deal was reviewed by an election law attorney, jim. do any of these standout to you as important? bits of information for the defense of donald trump for the defense, i would say, you know, in hopefully you set this up an opening statement, but you need to just kinda pound home that were not fighting every single fact that moves i
beauvais, who is it was an interesting, interesting q&a in this back-and-forth with emil bove vein who is a defense attorney for mr. trump pecker acknowledged that negative press for trump's foes was generally good for business pecker said that if the false door man allegations had been true, he would have run the story after the election beauvais elicited from pecker that catch and kill. the term catch and kill buying a story in order to not run it so that it doesn't run anywhere else to...
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so the fact that emil bove is the one who moved over to that chair suggests that he will be doing the cross-examination of david pecker at that point when that when that time comes, do you have any sense of how long pecker may be on the stand today in the hands of the prosecution. >> it's unclear because as you know, he did not i have as much to do with stormy daniels as he did with the karen mcdougal and dino sajudin doorman hush money one payments. so are the catch and kill payment i should say. and so by trump said to david pecker, i'm going to be turning this over to michael cohen and that's a lot of the interaction pecker might have had with michael cohen exactly. and i think that's what you're going to expect. the cross-examination of david pecker to be it's going to be all the times that donald trump was it's not involved that only michael cohen was because i think the defense attorney is going to want to make this all about michael cohen's credibility and distance trump as much as possible. >> they really trump attorney todd blanche is nodding along as trump speaks with him be
so the fact that emil bove is the one who moved over to that chair suggests that he will be doing the cross-examination of david pecker at that point when that when that time comes, do you have any sense of how long pecker may be on the stand today in the hands of the prosecution. >> it's unclear because as you know, he did not i have as much to do with stormy daniels as he did with the karen mcdougal and dino sajudin doorman hush money one payments. so are the catch and kill payment i...
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bove or both? former federal prosecutor. so they've been part of those conversations and it looks to me like they are choosing their battles. they have not tried to destroy david pecker. they're trying to pull out certain facts that are helpful. they're saving their fire from michael cohen because i was actually the person who asked donald trump it's nice. >> and exedra. >> i'm curious. do you how do you stop that kind of interesting. i think we're having a little bit of trouble with your audio. we're going to get back to you. so crescent hold that thought person asked kristin asked donald trump about david pecker listening, donald trump's response that he's a good guy and she was yeah. it's a tough one because all that donald trump could really say there to comply with the gag order is i can't comment on that under the existing order. and you made a really good point data you are technically violating the gag order not to if you say something negative or intimidating, but also if you say something
bove or both? former federal prosecutor. so they've been part of those conversations and it looks to me like they are choosing their battles. they have not tried to destroy david pecker. they're trying to pull out certain facts that are helpful. they're saving their fire from michael cohen because i was actually the person who asked donald trump it's nice. >> and exedra. >> i'm curious. do you how do you stop that kind of interesting. i think we're having a little bit of trouble...
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he is on cross right now with emil bove, and it looks like bove is trying to get him to say what he was doing was good for the "national enquirer's" business, to try to say that this was not necessarily about helping donald trump but helping out the "national enquirer." >> i think it can be two things at one time, right, there can be a motive for the campaign, for the electoral motive. it might have also helped the "national enquirer," but those two things can both be true, but and. >> how do you read today's testimony? do you think it's devastating for donald trump or do you think there are openings for the defense. >> i think it's not going well for donald trump. i think it's going quickly. this trial is moving along at a brisk pace, more quickly than anybody expected and this is a key part, the key part is why did you make these payments. one of really two or three key parts, and that's it. >> one of the things that we're just, again, getting from him is they asked about sales, and sales on news stands accounted for 70% of their profits. 70% of the money that came into the "national
he is on cross right now with emil bove, and it looks like bove is trying to get him to say what he was doing was good for the "national enquirer's" business, to try to say that this was not necessarily about helping donald trump but helping out the "national enquirer." >> i think it can be two things at one time, right, there can be a motive for the campaign, for the electoral motive. it might have also helped the "national enquirer," but those two things...
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where trump attorney emile bove drill down on david pecker is 2018 interview with the fbi and some inconsistencies between notes from that interview and pecker's current testimony emerged, how do inconsistencies like that way in a jury as they look at a case well, i think it's more about how the jury already has viewed the witness, where they feel that he's been authentic and sincere and straightforward with them. >> if they feel that he's been kind of a little bit shady and some of his answers, even on the direct testimony, they don't particularly like him, then they can see those inconsistencies as really key to credibility problems. but a lot of times we do focus on minor points and whether that really does it and sometimes it's a forest for the trees type of issue. jury is really looking at, well, what is this really say? is this really a bad conduct? tier? what is really say about the witness, these small inconsistencies tend to not have that gradient impact unless there's a big blow to the witnesses credibility. so i'm not sure it's going to have a tremendous effect at this point. >> yeah, i
where trump attorney emile bove drill down on david pecker is 2018 interview with the fbi and some inconsistencies between notes from that interview and pecker's current testimony emerged, how do inconsistencies like that way in a jury as they look at a case well, i think it's more about how the jury already has viewed the witness, where they feel that he's been authentic and sincere and straightforward with them. >> if they feel that he's been kind of a little bit shady and some of his...
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bove, is taken in the podium to begin the cross-examination of david pecker. >> so from the perspective of the jury, they've been hearing now over several days broken up, and i think that's important, emphasized broken up the direct examination of pecker. now you have the cross-examination starting they're not going to sleep on it. it's not going to start to morning tomorrow morning. it starting right now. what do you think about that from? what it means for the jury they will definitely have overnight before they hear the completion of the cross i'd be surprised if they finished it today so they'll have a lot of time to think about it if they choose to think about it. >> one of the things that jurors do look pretty closely at what when it comes to direct versus cross-examination is the demeanor of the witness. and day today, how does that demean or change or not? so jurors focus quite a lot on the content of what witnesses say, but they also focus on the demeanor that ange from direct across data de morning to afternoon depending on the content. and if they can draw any connections bet
bove, is taken in the podium to begin the cross-examination of david pecker. >> so from the perspective of the jury, they've been hearing now over several days broken up, and i think that's important, emphasized broken up the direct examination of pecker. now you have the cross-examination starting they're not going to sleep on it. it's not going to start to morning tomorrow morning. it starting right now. what do you think about that from? what it means for the jury they will definitely...
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bove, who's now sitting in the first chair and let's set the stage for the testimony we're going to hear today. if we can't elie honig because david obviously played a crucial role, at least in trump's mind, in his 2016 campaign helping to suppress stories that would be damaging and helping to push stories. however nonsensical against donald trump's opponents. and right now, i'm thinking about the story about ted cruz's dad right? somehow being involved in the kennedy assassination and completely deranged story pushed by the national enquirer that donald trump in may when he of 2016, when he was still facing off against ted cruz, was pushing when he would do the interviews. >> david is the ultimate insider here and he and trump, it's important, understand, they go way back. >> they used to hang out in manhattan and hit the party siem together and they had been doing this caching kill tactic well before donald trump was even a candidate, which by the way, may come into play when it comes to his motivation david, is there from the inception of this particular scheme, august 2015, we'r
bove, who's now sitting in the first chair and let's set the stage for the testimony we're going to hear today. if we can't elie honig because david obviously played a crucial role, at least in trump's mind, in his 2016 campaign helping to suppress stories that would be damaging and helping to push stories. however nonsensical against donald trump's opponents. and right now, i'm thinking about the story about ted cruz's dad right? somehow being involved in the kennedy assassination and...